Comments on: EMS as a Profession. http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/ Ever walked into a scene and said "You called 911...for this?" then you're in the right place. Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Peter O http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-3331 Peter O Tue, 24 Nov 2009 03:49:35 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-3331 My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. <a href="http://www.acap.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acap.org.au/</a> We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. <a href="http://www.jephc.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jephc.com/</a> My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. http://www.acap.org.au/ We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. http://www.jephc.com/

]]> By: Peter O http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 Peter O Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:49:35 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1994 My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. <a href="http://www.acap.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acap.org.au/</a> We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. <a href="http://www.jephc.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jephc.com/</a> My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. http://www.acap.org.au/ We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. http://www.jephc.com/

]]> By: Peter O http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1669 Peter O Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:49:35 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1669 My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. <a href="http://www.acap.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acap.org.au/</a> We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. <a href="http://www.jephc.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jephc.com/</a> My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. http://www.acap.org.au/ We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. http://www.jephc.com/

]]> By: Peter O http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1667 Peter O Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:49:35 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1667 My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. <a href="http://www.acap.org.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.acap.org.au/</a> We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. <a href="http://www.jephc.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jephc.com/</a> My American friends may like ti consider the education situation in Australia, where we are fast moving toward bachelor degrees for all paramedics and postgraduate programs for those in critical care. See our professinal association site fro links to educational institutions and the debate about registration. http://www.acap.org.au/ We are having lots of discussion about the concept of professionalisation and associated topics like mandatory registration of paramedics as health professionals. Our scholistic journal has a whole section on professinalisation that would welcome contributions from the US. http://www.jephc.com/

]]> By: The EMT Spot » The October EMS Round-Up http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1516 The EMT Spot » The October EMS Round-Up Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:46:53 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1516 [...] us up to speed on continuous compression CPR. The Happy Medic ha some interesting insight into EMS as a profession. Firegeezer put the quarter in the EMS blogging universe with a prediction regarding the next big [...] [...] us up to speed on continuous compression CPR. The Happy Medic ha some interesting insight into EMS as a profession. Firegeezer put the quarter in the EMS blogging universe with a prediction regarding the next big [...]

]]> By: totwtytr http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1440 totwtytr Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:25:15 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1440 As far as the public health component, which is a nice way of saying nagging people into doing things that we think are good for them. I can think of no better way to alienate (piss off) the very people we whom we are trying to convince of our professionalism. I don't know about you guys, but I and most people I know hate to be preached to. This fight is not about more skills or prevention, it's about perception. If the public decides that we have so much extra time on our hands that we can waste it telling them how to live their lives, chances are they are going to cut our budgets every chance they get. <br><br>First people want us to emulate nurses, now they want us emulate public health workers. Most of whom (and I know a fair number of them) have as little understanding of EMS as the general public. Well, less in fact. <br><br>I leave you with the words of the Greek philosopher Epictetus <br><br>"First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do." As far as the public health component, which is a nice way of saying nagging people into doing things that we think are good for them. I can think of no better way to alienate (piss off) the very people we whom we are trying to convince of our professionalism. I don't know about you guys, but I and most people I know hate to be preached to. This fight is not about more skills or prevention, it's about perception. If the public decides that we have so much extra time on our hands that we can waste it telling them how to live their lives, chances are they are going to cut our budgets every chance they get.

First people want us to emulate nurses, now they want us emulate public health workers. Most of whom (and I know a fair number of them) have as little understanding of EMS as the general public. Well, less in fact.

I leave you with the words of the Greek philosopher Epictetus

“First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do.”

]]> By: totwtytr http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1439 totwtytr Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:25:15 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1439 As far as the public health component, which is a nice way of saying nagging people into doing things that we think are good for them. I can think of no better way to alienate (piss off) the very people we whom we are trying to convince of our professionalism. I don't know about you guys, but I and most people I know hate to be preached to. This fight is not about more skills or prevention, it's about perception. If the public decides that we have so much extra time on our hands that we can waste it telling them how to live their lives, chances are they are going to cut our budgets every chance they get. <br><br>First people want us to emulate nurses, now they want us emulate public health workers. Most of whom (and I know a fair number of them) have as little understanding of EMS as the general public. Well, less in fact. <br><br>I leave you with the words of the Greek philosopher Epictetus <br><br>"First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do." As far as the public health component, which is a nice way of saying nagging people into doing things that we think are good for them. I can think of no better way to alienate (piss off) the very people we whom we are trying to convince of our professionalism. I don't know about you guys, but I and most people I know hate to be preached to. This fight is not about more skills or prevention, it's about perception. If the public decides that we have so much extra time on our hands that we can waste it telling them how to live their lives, chances are they are going to cut our budgets every chance they get.

First people want us to emulate nurses, now they want us emulate public health workers. Most of whom (and I know a fair number of them) have as little understanding of EMS as the general public. Well, less in fact.

I leave you with the words of the Greek philosopher Epictetus

“First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do.”

]]> By: the Happy Medic http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1435 the Happy Medic Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:10:57 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1435 Agreed totw, human behavior is a hell of a difficult task, hence the reason we can't approach it from that direction. Not for profit medicine is a beast I don't understand, don't claim to, but if we all just plug along nothing will get better.<br>i hope to earn from Mark how he does his job, which really is the same as mine, from a completely different system.<br>I do hope to learn more about systems different than those I've been in. how else can we learn, right?<br>Thanks for the comment, as always. Agreed totw, human behavior is a hell of a difficult task, hence the reason we can't approach it from that direction. Not for profit medicine is a beast I don't understand, don't claim to, but if we all just plug along nothing will get better.
i hope to earn from Mark how he does his job, which really is the same as mine, from a completely different system.
I do hope to learn more about systems different than those I've been in. how else can we learn, right?
Thanks for the comment, as always.

]]> By: totwtytr http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1434 totwtytr Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:19:53 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1434 You know, HM, not for profit medicine is not picnic either. That, however is a story for a different day. <br>I'm not crazy about the "EMS as prevention specialists" either. Nagging people, as public health advocates like to do it isn't particularly effective. There is a large difference between mandating smoke detectors, improving fire codes, etc., and trying to change human behavior. The former is relatively easy, the latter damned near impossible. <br><br>Good luck in your quest to change human nature and society. You know, HM, not for profit medicine is not picnic either. That, however is a story for a different day.
I'm not crazy about the “EMS as prevention specialists” either. Nagging people, as public health advocates like to do it isn't particularly effective. There is a large difference between mandating smoke detectors, improving fire codes, etc., and trying to change human behavior. The former is relatively easy, the latter damned near impossible.

Good luck in your quest to change human nature and society.

]]> By: the Happy Medic http://happymedic.com/2009/10/21/ems-as-a-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-1432 the Happy Medic Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:05:16 +0000 http://happymedic.com/?p=1015#comment-1432 Ol Medic. Welcome! Indeed Paramedic specialties have already emerged with Flight Medics and Mobile intensive Care Specialties finding their niches. imagine a rural community who hires not just a state license, but someone with a National Pediatric Paramedic License with the education to back it up. By the time most medical schools adopt a bachelor's in EMS program, those leading the way today will offer specialties which will be well respected throughout the EMS community.<br><br>All we need is a few thousand folks interested in being better medics and we'll be all set.<br><br>Oh, and a few billion dollars to train and pay them. But imagine the pay off 25 years later when they become the teachers and the industry quiets down and lets the practitioners have a say in how we do things.<br><br>See you at the big one!<br>HM Ol Medic. Welcome! Indeed Paramedic specialties have already emerged with Flight Medics and Mobile intensive Care Specialties finding their niches. imagine a rural community who hires not just a state license, but someone with a National Pediatric Paramedic License with the education to back it up. By the time most medical schools adopt a bachelor's in EMS program, those leading the way today will offer specialties which will be well respected throughout the EMS community.

All we need is a few thousand folks interested in being better medics and we'll be all set.

Oh, and a few billion dollars to train and pay them. But imagine the pay off 25 years later when they become the teachers and the industry quiets down and lets the practitioners have a say in how we do things.

See you at the big one!
HM

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